Post by BYT YHWH on May 5, 2005 18:45:34 GMT -5
by John V. Cordaro
Can a spirit being die? More exactly: Can deity (a divine
personage) die? If Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed as
Deity, or as a Spiritual Being before the world was created,
was it possible for him to die (on the tree)? Let the
Scriptures answer.
"And Yahshua answering said unto them, The sons of this
age marry, and are given in marriage, but those who are
accounted worthy to attain to that age and to the
resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in
marriage, for they cannot die any more, because they are
equal to the angels; and are sons of Yahweh, being sons of
the resurrection." (Lu.20:34-36, RSV).
We see that angels of Yahweh cannot die. Once
resurrected we will be "equal to the angels" in that we
cannot die either. Why is this? It is because we are sons of
Yahweh, being sons of the resurrection. But when do we
become spirit beings? Is this the same as becoming "sons
of Yahweh?"
"But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and
with what body do they come? So also is the resurrection of
the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in
weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it
is raised a spiritual body." (1Cor.15:35, 42-44).
It is at the (first) resurrection that we become a spirit being
- that we obtain a spiritual body. Please notice the following
things that happen at the (first) resurrection:
1) We are raised in power
2) We are raised in glory
3) We are raised in incorruption
4) We are raised to immortality (1 Cor.15:52)
5) We are raised equal to the angels
6) We are raised to become sons of Yahweh, being sons of
the resurrection
7) We are raised with a spiritual body
8) We are raised to immortality so we cannot die any more
Luke says those of the first resurrection cannot die.
Synonyms of "cannot die" are "incorruption" and "immortal."
Paul says those of the first resurrection come forth as
spiritual bodies and are incorruptible and put on immortality.
Accepting the statements of both Luke and Paul, we find
that spirit beings cannot die. When did Yahshua become a
spirit being? Again, the Scriptures have the answer.
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living
soul; the last Adam [Yahshua] was made a quickening
[life-giving] spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is
spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which
is spiritual." (1Co.15:44-46).
This indicates the Messiah was not a spirit being before he
was born physically. The physical (body) comes, then the
spiritual (body). When was Yahshua declared to be the son
of Yahweh? Just as we will be sons of Yahweh by our
resurrection from the dead, so Yahshua was declared to be
the son of Yahweh "by his resurrection from the dead"
(Rom.1:4).
Conclusion? Once mortal man receives immortality (a
spiritual body) he cannot die. Is Deity any less? We must
conclude, then, that Deity cannot die - in the past, the
present, or in the future. Therefore, Yahshua was not Deity
nor did he exist as a spiritual being before the world existed
- except in the plans of the Father - plans made from the
beginning.
"Who verily was foreordained [in the plans] before the
foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times
for you," (1Pe.1:20).
* "That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born
of Spirit is spirit" (Jn.3:6). It is one or the other. No person
can be both at the same time.
Can a spirit being die? More exactly: Can deity (a divine
personage) die? If Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed as
Deity, or as a Spiritual Being before the world was created,
was it possible for him to die (on the tree)? Let the
Scriptures answer.
"And Yahshua answering said unto them, The sons of this
age marry, and are given in marriage, but those who are
accounted worthy to attain to that age and to the
resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in
marriage, for they cannot die any more, because they are
equal to the angels; and are sons of Yahweh, being sons of
the resurrection." (Lu.20:34-36, RSV).
We see that angels of Yahweh cannot die. Once
resurrected we will be "equal to the angels" in that we
cannot die either. Why is this? It is because we are sons of
Yahweh, being sons of the resurrection. But when do we
become spirit beings? Is this the same as becoming "sons
of Yahweh?"
"But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and
with what body do they come? So also is the resurrection of
the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in
weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it
is raised a spiritual body." (1Cor.15:35, 42-44).
It is at the (first) resurrection that we become a spirit being
- that we obtain a spiritual body. Please notice the following
things that happen at the (first) resurrection:
1) We are raised in power
2) We are raised in glory
3) We are raised in incorruption
4) We are raised to immortality (1 Cor.15:52)
5) We are raised equal to the angels
6) We are raised to become sons of Yahweh, being sons of
the resurrection
7) We are raised with a spiritual body
8) We are raised to immortality so we cannot die any more
Luke says those of the first resurrection cannot die.
Synonyms of "cannot die" are "incorruption" and "immortal."
Paul says those of the first resurrection come forth as
spiritual bodies and are incorruptible and put on immortality.
Accepting the statements of both Luke and Paul, we find
that spirit beings cannot die. When did Yahshua become a
spirit being? Again, the Scriptures have the answer.
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living
soul; the last Adam [Yahshua] was made a quickening
[life-giving] spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is
spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which
is spiritual." (1Co.15:44-46).
This indicates the Messiah was not a spirit being before he
was born physically. The physical (body) comes, then the
spiritual (body). When was Yahshua declared to be the son
of Yahweh? Just as we will be sons of Yahweh by our
resurrection from the dead, so Yahshua was declared to be
the son of Yahweh "by his resurrection from the dead"
(Rom.1:4).
Conclusion? Once mortal man receives immortality (a
spiritual body) he cannot die. Is Deity any less? We must
conclude, then, that Deity cannot die - in the past, the
present, or in the future. Therefore, Yahshua was not Deity
nor did he exist as a spiritual being before the world existed
- except in the plans of the Father - plans made from the
beginning.
"Who verily was foreordained [in the plans] before the
foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times
for you," (1Pe.1:20).
* "That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born
of Spirit is spirit" (Jn.3:6). It is one or the other. No person
can be both at the same time.