Conjunction, or First Crescent, or Full Moon?

[BYT YHWH]

PART 1

One of the first things we need to do is to take a look at
the phases of
the Moon.
The Moon travels in a counter clockwise orbit around the
Earth.
The orbit is more oval in structure, rather than circular.
The time of the Moon's orbit varies each and every
Month.
So, periodically YAHWEH's Law comes into effect, and
a Miracle occurs.
YAHWEH causes the Moon, Sun, and Earth to come
into direct alignment
with each other.
And this is a Sign for mankind to begin to count, for the
Set Apart
Days.
Conjunction

The time for counting starts when the Moon is positioned
exactly in
alignment between the Earth and the Sun.
Remember in The Scriptures where it says the Sun and
Moon, and Stars are
for Signs (Genesis 1:14-18).
History records that many nations were able to calculate
the Conjunction
exactly.
For example two of them, Egypt and Babylon, although
they only
calculated to find when the Crescent would take place.
The ancient Aztecs were more than capable of
determining the Conjunction
as well.
Any man or woman with the proper talents or gifts can
do this quite
easily.
At the Conjunction, the Moon is very different than at
any other time of
its orbit.
It is totally obscured to the eye.
It cannot be seen.
As a result of this, you will not be tempted to look up
see the Moon,
"crescent" and/or "full", and "worship" it, as YAHWEH
has warned
against.
Crescent

The Moon in this phase is now emitting a thin line of light.
Many "religious" people today use this method of
counting to determine
the days.
The nation of Islam uses this, among others.
If you will take notice, on the top of their temples the
Crescent Moon,
which they describe as having horns is quite Visible.
Where did this originate?
The symbolism of using horns came from Babylon,
because of the "worship"
of Cows and the Sun and Moon.
Babylon utilized it and used the Crescent as part of
"worship" toward
other Gods.
There is a great deal of research available on this.
Abraham lived in Ur, and later in Haram, where it was
the center of
Crescent "worship" of the Moon-Goddess Ishtar called
Ningal in Ur.
She has had many names in many different nations - her
worship required
licentiousness, sacred prostitution in connection with her
temples - her
priestesses entertained male "worshippers" in
disgraceful ceremonies -
every maid, wife or widow had to officiate at least once
in her lifetime
in these rites - Sin-the Moon-God was the deity of Ur.
YAHWEH called Abraham out of Babylon, as HE calls us
"out of her" today
(Revelation 18:4)!
There is a time the Moon is different from any other.
That is at The Conjunction.
From the time the Moon starts its orbit at Conjunction, it
travels
around the Earth, until its journey is completed.
Then it is renewed by YAHWEH to begin the start of a
New Month, and does
exactly what YAHWEH has designed it to do.
This is the time THE FATHER brings it into alignment
with the Earth and
the Sun.
What a miracle that is, when this takes place.
King David knew this, and has informed us in The
Scriptures!
Psalm 81:3: "Blow up the trumpet (shofar) in the New
Moon, in the Time
Appointed, on our Solemn Feast Day".
Let us analyze this, and determine what David was
saying.
This should be obvious that David is talking about the
Feast of Trumpets
(the Day of Shoutings).
That is the Day of the New Moon.
The words "New Moon" is translated from: 02320
chodesh kho' -desh from
02318; Taken from the root 2318 1) the new moon,
month, monthly 1a) the
first day of the month The root word. a primitive root
AV-renew 7,
repair 1) to be new, renew, repair.
Examples of how this word is used in other Scriptures:
1 Samuel 11:14 and renew the kingdom there
2 Chronicles 15:8 renewed the altar
2 Chronicles 24:4 repair the House of the LORD
[YAHWEH]
2 Chronicles 24:12 carpenters to repair the House
Iyyob (Job) 10:17 Thou renewest thy witnesses
Psalms 51:10 renew a right spirit within me.
Psalms 103:5 thy youth is renewed
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are
created: and
thou renewest the face of the earth.
David chose to use the word "Codesh" which comes
from the root word
"Chadesh"...
This word means to renew, repair, be new, bring back.
But David could have chosen the Hebrew word
"Saharon", which means
Crescent Moon.
But he did NOT!
More on the Crescent Moon later.
But David chose the word "Chadesh", meaning New
Moon.
"The Time Appointed": this seems to be a bad
translation.
In the NIV it is translated "Full Moon".
Well all know we cannot have a Full Moon on the First
Day of the Month,
because the Full Moon is the time when the Moon is in
the middle of her
orbit, that is in the middle of the Month, and NOT in the
beginning of
the Month.
So what is the real meaning here.
The word "Appointed" is translated from the Hebrew:
3677 kece'
{keh'-seh} or keceh {keh'-seh} Which is from the root:
3680 kacah
{kaw-saw'} Which means: to cover, conceal, hide.
So, what David is really saying is: "Blow up the trumpet
(shofar) on the
First of the Month (7th Month), in the time of the Hidden
Moon, on our
Solemn Feast Day".
What is the New Moon?
The Hidden Moon, when totally dark is a Conjunction
with the Sun, and
Earth.
A miracle of YAHWEH's Time Clocks in action.
Another example from King David...
How could David make these statements with such
certainty?
1 Samuel 20:5: "And David said unto Yahnathan,
Behold, Tomorrow [is] the
New Moon, and I should not fail to sit with the king at
meat: but let me
go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third [Day]
at even".
Yahnathan also knew with certainty that Tomorrow is
the New Moon! How?
1 Samuel 20:18: "Then Yahnathan said to David,
Tomorrow [is] the New
Moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will
be empty".
There was no written and saved history, before the
Yahdaim (Jews) came
back from Babylon.
We know how it was done then.
Witnesses were sent out, and when they saw the
Crescent Moon, they lit a
fire on the mountain, then came back to Yerusalem to
be questioned by
the Sanhedrin....
Well, that took some time, did it not?
But how did David know that Tomorrow was the New
Moon?
Well, could he have looked up in the sky and saw the
Conjunction, and
said Tomorrow is the Crescent Moon, and that is the
New Moon? Hardly
possible.
You can not see the Moon when YAHWEH is renewing it.

It is dark.
So, how could he have known?
Some say, they were calculating it.
Well, many nations knew how to do that as well as
Israel....
Others say, well this dinner David was talking about was
pre-planned
ahead.
And some say, the kings always invited envoys from
other parts of Israel
to attend.
Still more have concluded that it had to have been
planned for quite a
while.
So, calculating the Conjunction is how they did it.
Many feel that, David looked up and saw the Last
Crescent Moon, thereby
knowing Tomorrow is the New Moon.
You can see the Last Crescent just about daybreak the
day before
Conjunction.
Is that what David saw?
How could David have stated with certainty, that
"Tomorrow is the New
Moon"?
If they were doing it in the way it was done when they
returned from
Babylon, David would have had to wait until they saw
the Crescent Moon,
about Sunset, then waited until the Witnesses had
returned to Yerusalem,
then word would have been brought to the King.
It seems likely that process would take a bit of time...
But what if, it was cloudy and overcast that evening,
then they would
have had to wait another day.
Is that Scriptural?

[BYT YHWH]

PART 2

Argument for the First Crescent

Some say, according Gesenisus' Hebrew / Chaldee
Lexicon, that "the term
'Hodesh' (# 2320) came from # 2318 which means to be
new, or to polish a
sword. Etymologist has well observed that its primary
sense is that of
cutting and polishing... and the signification of newness
appears to
proceed from that of a sharp polished splendid sword.
We see that a new
moon cannot mean a full moon. A full moon in no way
appears as a
polished sword (or a conjunction moon). In the case of a
True New Moon,
it appears as a scimitar, or curved sword" (end of
quote).
Answer

Yes, we knew of this definition early on in our Search for
the Truth.
There are many Hebrew scholars that certainly disagree
with the
"Gesenisus".
We really have not found any other definitions that agree
with
"Gesenisus".
Some would say, the Crescent does not look like a
sword.
But we would disagree with that.
Searching has shown us that the Arab (Muslims) built
their swords in a
Crescent style.
We understand that Islam counts from the Crescent, in
fact many Crescent
Moons appear on top of their Mosques as previously
stated.
And there is evidence in the digs around Ur and Haram
(where Abram was
called from), that on top of the temple built for the Moon
God; a
Crescent Moon was there.
First Crescent Moon

The First Crescent Moon - Saharon.
Isaiah 3:18: "In that day the Lord [YAHWEH] will take
away the bravery
of [their] tinkling ornaments [about their feet], and [their]
cauls, and
[their] round tires like the Moon...".
The NIV has this: "In that day the Lord [YAHWEH] will
snatch away
their finery: the bangles and headbands and Crescent
necklaces...".
The word Moon is translated from: 7720 saharon
{sah-har-one'} 1) moon,
crescent, as ornament.
Other places this is found:
Judges 8:21: "Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise
thou, and fall upon us:
for as the man [is, so is] his strength. And Gideon
arose, and slew
Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that
[were] on their
camels' necks".
Judges 8:26: "And the weight of the golden earrings that
he requested
was a thousand and seven hundred [shekels] of gold;
beside ornaments,
and collars, and purple raiment that [was] on the kings
of Midian, and
beside the chains that [were] about their camels' necks".
What about this?
History seems to indicate that after the Babylonian
captivity that the
First Visible Crescent was sighted.
The sighting was then checked and verified by a great
assembly, which
was the forerunner of the Sanhedrin.
Was this the way they observed the New Moon before
the Exile?
We have not found any evidence to show it.
The fact is there are few references to a calendar
before the Exile.
The only proof we have is the history recorded by the
Pharisees who are
the Rabbis of today.
The next problem we have is that while in Babylon the
leaders may have
taken on more than just the Babylonian names for the
months.
The fact is, as The Scriptures themselves reveal, the
Israelites were
influenced by the people around them.
The Saharon, which was probably made of metal and
had the form of a
Crescent, i.e., the Crescent Moon.
It was worn by women (Isayah 3:18), and by kings
(Judges 8:26), and tied
to the necks of camels (Judges 8:21) to protect them
from the Evil Eye.
"The Crescent was a favorite amulet among many
peoples of Western Asia,
and it represented to them the strength and protection
of the waxing and
not the waning moon" (Budge, pg. 213).
"Before Yaaqob went to Bethel to present himself
before YAHWEH he made
all his people to hand over to him their "strange gods"
and ear-rings
(i.e., Crescent-shaped amulets), and he hid them under
the oak which was
in Schechem (Genesis 35:4)" (Budge, pg. 214).
Of these references, the Scriptural evidence is
pre-Exodus with the
exception of Isayah which talks of a time when the
daughters of
Yerusalem will have their jewelry taken away including
Crescents.
It is also interesting to note that the ancient Babylonians
had a Elohim
(God), they called "Mighty One", whose name was Sin,
and whose symbol
was that of a Crescent.
"The Babylonian Moon-God Sin (su'e) stands in a
Crescent-Moon, his
symbol. Agate Neo-Babylonian seal c. 7th - 6th century
B.C." (The
Illustrated Bible Dictionary, pg. 1023).
There is a word in Hebrew that means Crescent Moon,
that word is Saharon
yare'akh.
The word Saharon is in The Scriptures, and refers to
amulets as seen
above.
But it is interesting that the Hebrew word for New Moon
(Chodesh), and
Crescent Moon (Saharon yare'akh) are NOT the same!
If there was a word available to describe what Moon the
New Moon is, and
if the New Moon was a Crescent, then why is NOT it
used in The
Scriptures?
We can see that the First Visible Crescent (waxing) is
used by the
neighbors of Abraham, Isaac, and Yaaqob, and their
descendants, the
Israelites, as a protective amulet as well as
"worshipped" as a deity.
If you read throughout The Scriptures, you will see that
the Israelites
followed after these peoples and practices their
idolatries.
Why else would YAHWEH say that HE would take away
their Crescents?
It seems very clear that it proves that the Crescent is
NOT the New
Moon, and we find the evidence of Crescent-Moon
"worship" very
disturbing!
Would YAHWEH link HIMSELF to pagan practices and
rites?
We think NOT!

[Tovayah]

Carlo, I appreciate your information regarding which phase is the new moon? I agree that the invisible moon starts the month.Calculation is not necessary if you watch for the last visible crescent in the early morning eastern sky, the messenger of the upcoming new month. Thank you for the information on the Psalm passage. I am glad that you are making that information known.

[BYT YHWH]

Shabbath Shalom Tovayah!

Welcome to The Community of YAHWEH For The Disciples of YAHSHUA Discussion Forums!

I am Very Glad that you agree with us that the Conjunction (Covered, Invisible Moon) is The True Scriptural New Moon!

Yes, the sighting of the Last Crescent was/is the way to say that tomorrow is The New Moon, just as King David, and Yahnathan said (1 Samuel 20:5, 18).

But also the astronomical calculation was/is used, and possible, just in case the Last Crescent would be not visible, being cloudy, also to make plans in advance, as, for example, in the case of the apparently planned dinner with King Shaul (see The Scriptures above), and especially for the purposes of the Three Yearly Pilgrimage Set Apart Feasts of YAHWEH (Deuteronomy 16:16-17).

Your are most Welcome to share with us even more Light and Truth on this, and others important Scriptural Issues!

YAHWEH Bless you and your family!

True Love in YAHSHUA MESSIYAH,

Your brother Carlo

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] THE TRUE NEW MOON

Shalom Dear Br. Carlo,
I have some questions concerning your comments on how the word chodesh is used. I am inserting them after your comments.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

yahshuadisciples <[e-mail]> wrote:

The words "New Moon" is translated from: 02320 chodesh kho' -desh from 02318; Taken from the root 2318 1) the new moon, month, monthly 1a) the first day of the month The root word. a primitive root AV-renew 7, repair 1) to be new, renew, repair.

Examples of how this word is used in other Scriptures:

1 Samuel 11:14 and renew the kingdom there
(Br. P) Does this mean that the kingdom has to be completely dismantled and rebuilt from brick one to renew it, as implied from rebuilding the moon from the dark conjunction, or first visible sliver?

2 Chronicles 15:8 renewed the altar
(Br. P) Does the alter have to be completely dismantled and rebuilt from scratch to renew it, as is implied from rebuilding the moon from the dark conjunction or first visible sliver?

2 Chronicles 24:4 repair the House of the LORD [YAHWEH]
(Br. P) Does the House of Yahuah have to be completely dismantled and rebuilt from scratch to repair it, as is implied from rebuilding the moon from the dark conjunction or the first visible sliver?

2 Chronicles 24:12 carpenters to repair the House
(Br. P) Do the carpenters have to completely dismantle the house in order to repair it, as is implied from repairing and rebuilding the moon from the dark conjunction or first visible sliver?

Iyyob (Job) 10:17 Thou renewest thy witnesses
(Br. P) Do the witnesses have to be re-created from the blackness of the womb in order to be renewed as is implied from renewing the moon from the dark conjunction or first sliver?

Psalms 51:10 renew a right spirit within me.
(Br. P) Does all spirit have to be removed from a person and new spirit infused into them for that person to have renewed spirit as is implied from renewing the moon from the dark conjunction or first visible sliver?

Psalms 103:5 thy youth is renewed
(Br. P) Does a person have to re-enter the womb and re-emerge in re-birth to have their youth renewed as is implied by renewing the moon from the dark conjunction of the first visible sliver?

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
(Br. P) Does Yahuah have erase and darken the face of the earth in order to renew it as is implied from renewing the moon from dark conjunction or first visible sliver?

David chose to use the word "Codesh" which comes from the root word "Chadesh"...
This word means to renew, repair, be new, bring back.
(Br. P) When was man first a new creation - when he was yet dust of the ground or after he was fully formed? When was woman a new creation - before Yahuah took a rib from Adam to fashion her from - or afterward she was formed? When will man again be a new creation - when he dies and descends into the darkness of the grave or when he is resurrected in a fully formed and incorruptable body?

Enoch says that the New Moon is the Full Moon. When we discussed this point from Br. Gary Miller's booklet, I posted evidence that the New Moon is the plump, fully illuminated, Full Moon.

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: "yahwehcommunity" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:58 am
Subject: Re: THE TRUE NEW MOON


Shalom Dear Br. Paul!

I find very interesting and convicting your questions concerning the comments on
how the word chodesh is used!

That is not my Scriptural Study, but I have linked it from another site.

As a matter of fact, one thing is for sure: the Crescent is NOT the New Moon!

Then, about the Full Moon as the New Moon, and consequently the Conjunction as a
Special Appointment Time, in the middle of the Month, when The Main Feasts of
YAHWEH occur (Passover / Feast of Unleavened Bread in the 1st Month, and
Tabernacles in the 7th Month), would be very interesting and convicting!

I will Study deeper the issue...

Many Thanks for your inspiring inputs!

PRAISE YAHWEH!!!

YAHWEH Bless you!

True Love in YAHSHUA MESSIYAH!

Your Brother in HIS Name,

Carlo Tognoni,

The Community of YAHWEH
For The Disciples of YAHSHUA

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] THE TRUE NEW MOON

Shalom

You wrote:

"Enoch says that the New Moon is the Full Moon. When we discussed this point from Br. Gary Miller's booklet, I posted evidence that the New Moon is the plump, fully illuminated, Full Moon"


Colud You please send me this evidence You found.

Thanks

Bless You

jacek

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?

Dear (Br.?) jacek,
Here, for everyone, is the post I sent to you privately. May everyone gain a blessing from the reading.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

PWC <[e-mail]> wrote:
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:57:02 -0800 (PST)
From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?
To: The Community of YAHWEH <[e-mail]>
CC: PWC [e-mail],

Dear Br. Carlo,

First off, let me say that I too have Br. Gary's booklet The Scriptural New Moon, along with his booklets The Scriptural Weekly Sabbath Is NOT from Sunset To Sunset, and Biblical Tithing Is NOT On Money. I do have regard for his works. But in regard to his conclusions about the Dark Moon being the New Moon, I have to strongly disagree. On pg 9 Br. Gary states:

"The crux of the problem is a disregard for the root SEC 3680 and failure to apply its meaning to SEC 3677. The result is a misunderstanding of just what a COVERED MOON IS." (emphasis in text)

In this instance Br. Gary has not followed his own admonition. He has not examined all of the evidence - just enough to "prove" belief in a Dark Moon New Moon. Below are the 2 passages specifically referenced by Br. Gary in his booklet at pg 8. Please notice that Hebrew # 3677 (kece properly, ie correctly, means full moon) comes from Hebrew # 3680 (properly, ie correctly, means plump) and Hebrew # 3680 compares to Hebrew # 3780 (to grow fat).

Applying this to the Moon it can only be seen Fat and Plump when reflecting the Sun's light at Full Moon, the same cannot be said of a Dark Moon. And one has to ask If Yahuah wants us to gather outdoors at the time of the New Moon, would he have us congregate in the light of the Full Moon or in the black of night under a Dark Moon? There is no darkness in Yahuah. 2nd Corinthians 6:14 asks what communion has darkness with light.

Proverbs 7:20
20] He hath taken a bag of money with him, will come home at the day appointed (H # 3677 kece/Full/Plump/Fat Moon).

Psalm 83:3
03] Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed (H # 3677 kece/Full/Plump/Fat Moon), on our solemn feast day.

Strong's Hebrew # 3677 keh'-seh, keh'-seh Apparently from Hebrew # 3680; properly fulness or the full moon, that is, its festival: - (time) appointed.

Strong's Hebrew # 3680 kaw-saw' A primitive root; properly to plump, that is, fill up hollows; by implication to cover (for clothing or secrecy): - clad self, close, clothe, conceal, cover (self), (flee to) hide, overwhelm. Compare Hebrew # 3780.

Strong's Hebrew 3780 kaw-saw' A primitive root; to grow fat (that is, be covered with flesh): - be covered. Compare Hebrew # 3680.

The only thing that could cover a PLUMP/FAT Moon would be the light of the Sun at Full Moon. A simple word search will reveal that Hebrew # 3780 is used in the context of clothing. Revelation 12:1 gives us the image of a woman clothed (covered) with the sun. Surely there is no darkness here.

Psalm 81:3 properly rendered then reads:
Blow up the trumpet in the time of the Full/Plump/Fat Moon on the day of our solemn feast.

Ezekiel 46:1
01] Thus said Yahuah: The gate of the inner court which faces east shall be closed on the six working days; it shall be opened on the Sabbath day and it shall be opened on the day of the New/Plump/Fat/Full Moon.

The Temple gate which faces east shall be opened only on the Sabbath day and the New Moon. Only a Full/Plump/Fat Moon would be visible on the eastern horizon at sunset. A crescent moon is not visible in the east, it is only visible in the west, and the dark moon is not visible at all. The diminishing light from the setting sun will shine on the Temple from the west, while the rising New Full/Plump/Fat Moon will shine through the open eastern gate of the Temple as designed by Yahuah.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

The Community of YAHWEH <[e-mail]> wrote:
Shalom Everyone!

Our Dear Br. Paul has stated that the Scriptural New Moon would be the
Full Moon, also quoting Psalm 81:3.

For a more complete explanation of Psalm 81:3, here below we would like
to submit you excerpts from the booklet, The Scriptural New Moon, by
Gary C. Miller, A Publication of The International Congregation of
Yahweh (http://www.icyahweh.org), Pages 8 and 9, that we fully agree
with:

What Exactly is the Scriptural New Moon?

A. The New Moon of Scripture is the "Covered Moon" at the time of its
Conjunction with the Sun.

(a) David apparently testifies to the "Covered Moon" being the New Moon:

Psalm 81:3: "Blow the trumpet at the New Moon, at the Covered Moon, on
our Feast Day".

The phrase "Covered Moon" (SEC 3677) has two forms Heb. kese (Used in
Proverbs 7:20) and keseh (Used in Psalm 81:3).

For Psalm 81:3 most translations translate "Covered Moon" as Full Moon
(RSV, GIB, GN, Rotherham, Moffatt, Concordant OT, NJ, NW, LB, NAS). Two
translate it "Time Appointed" (Lamsa, KJV). Young's Literal says, '"Blow
in the Month a trumpet, in the New Moon, at the Day of our Festival".

For Proverbs 7:20, again, most translations give "Full Moon" (Jewish
Society Pub., NAS, GIL, NW, Moffatt, Rotherham, NJ). GN says, "Won't be
back for 2 weeks". Lamsa says, "Gone a long time". Three give "The New
Moon" (Companion Bible, KJV, YL: Day of New Moon).

Concordances, Word Studies, and Lexicons give:

Young's Concordance (p. 989) says the Psalm 81:3 form means Festival of
The New Moon.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: "...properly Fullness or the Full
Moon".

Gesenius (Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to Old Testament; p. 406): SEC 3677:
"...the Full Moon... The etymology is not clear to me, for it is not
satisfactory to say that it is so called from the whole moon being the
covered with light... Verbs of covering are often applied in the sense
of hiding and covering over, but never, as far as I know, to that of
giving light".

The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon (p. 386): (SEC 3677):
"Proverbs 7:20 form of SEC 3677 and Psalm 81:3 form of SEC 3677):
...BOTH forms masculine The New Moon".
"SEC 3680 (root of 3677) (p. 386): to cover, conceal; I. to cover over,
cover sin;... II. to put on, cover oneself... III. to cover, hide,
conceal...".

Genenius (HCLOT; p. 407): SEC 3680, root of 3677): "To cover, to cover
over... (1). to cover... (2). to cover oneself... (3). to cover,
conceal".

The Complete Word Study N.T. (pp. 2326, 2327) has "3680 (root of 3677)
Heb. kasah; means to cover, conceal, hide; to clothe; to cover sin, to
forgive; to keep secret, to hide oneself... Frogs covered Egypt (Exodus
8:6) and the Pillar of Cloud covered The Tabernacle (Numbers 9:16).
Sometimes it means hidden from view (Genesis 7:19, 20; 37:26; Proverbs
10:18)...".

B. What does the data of part A above tell us?

It is clear there is no universal agreement among scholars as to the
meaning of SEC 3677 in both its forms (Psalm 81:3 and Proverbs 7:20).
Even Genenius who gives the synonym, Full Moon, says this rendering goes
absolutely against the meaning of verbs of covering from which this word
is derived. Vers of covering denote concealing, hiding, rather than
revealing with light or giving light as he points out.

The Full Moon which most translate is hardly the same as New Moon which
others give. These are distinctly different phases of the Moon.

None that I have found, however, disagree with the root of SEC 3677
being 3680, to cover, conceal, hide.

The crux of the problem here is a disregard for the root SEC 3680 and
failure to apply its meaning to SEC 3677.

The result is a misunderstanding of just what a COVERED MOON IS.

A COVERED MOON IS NOT A FULL MOON, BUT THE MOON AT CONJUNCTION WHEN IT
IS CONCEALED, COVERED OVER, DARK, just as the root of 3677 suggests it
must be.

This is why the translation of Psalm 81:3: "...at The New Moon, the
Covered Moon..." is preferred. The phrase "the Covered Moon" is an
appositive. We could translate: "...at The New Moon, that is, the
Covered Moon at Conjunction...".

YAHWEH (YHWH) Bless you!

True Love in YAHSHUA (YAHWSHUA) MESSIYAH (MASHIACH)!

Your Brethren in HIS Name,

Carlo & Davide


> ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:08:21 -0800 (PST)
From: PWC
Subject: Re: "Challenge" with a $12,000 reward
To: PWC , The Community of YAHWEH

Greetings All,
The following demonstrates that the Scriptural New moon is in fact the Full Moon.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

Notice in verses 11, 12 Enoch is speaking of the Moon growing for 14 days, then in verse 13 Enoch says that on the first day of being Full the Moon is New, and finally in verses 14, 15 he speaks of the Moon waning until the days of its month are ended.

Enoch 78:10-15
10] .... And Uriel showed me another law: when light is transferred to the moon, and on which side it is transferred to her by the sun. 11] During all the period during which the moon is growing in her light, she is transferring it to herself when opposite to the sun during fourteen days her light is accomplished in the heaven, 12] and when she is illumined throughout, her light is accomplished full in the heaven. And on the first 13] day she is called the new moon, for on that day the light rises upon her. She becomes full moon exactly on the day when the sun sets in the west, and from the east she rises at night, and the moon shines the whole night through till the sun rises over against her and the moon is seen over (setting) against the sun. 14] On the side whence the light of the moon comes forth, there again she wa nes till all the light vanishes and all the days of the month are at an end, and her circumference is empty, void of 15] light. ....

Enoch 77:12-16
12] Uriel likewise showed me another regulation, when light is poured into the moon, how it is poured into it from the sun. 13] All the time that the moon is in progress with its light, it is poured into it in the presence of the sun, until its light is in fourteen days completed in heaven. 14] And when it is wholly extinguished ( * ), its light is consumed in heaven; and on the first day it is called the new moon, for on that day light is received into it. 15] It becomes precisely completed on the day that the sun descends into the west, while the moon ascends at night from the east. 16] The moon then shines all the night, until the sun rises before it; when the moon disappears in turn before the sun. ( * extinguished can refer to a total lunar eclipse, a cove ring up of the moon with the shadow of Earth - OR as indicated below that the Moon's light is quenched by the brightness of the rising Sun.)

Book of the Bee Chpt 38 (edited and translated by Earnest A. Wallis Budge, M.A. 1886)
Now the moon is stronger in its light than all the stars, but it is immediately quenched and its light dissipated by one small ray of the sun. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/)

Approximately three days before an actual Full / New Moon and just before sunset, the nearly full waxing Moon will be visible high in the Eastern sky. Each day the Moon becomes larger, more completely full than the previous day, as both the rising Moon in the East and the setting Sun in the West appear closer to their respective horizons. On the actual day of the Full / New Moon, the Moon will be rising in the East just as the Sun is setting in the West. Thereby giving observers the ability to predict a Full / New Moon a couple of days in advance. Even a child can observe this without assistance, and during the daylight. This interpretation of the Full Moon as the New Moon is scriptural because both the sun and moon are used together determine the New Moon, as in Berenutsh/Genesis 1:14. It must also be noted that the New / Full Moon is NOT the first day of each calendrical month. When the Full Moon rises as the Sun is setting; observed at sunset; then the DAY of the New Full Moon would begin with the following daybreak.

Three days was ample time for David and Jonathan to observe the moon during waking hours as it came closer to the horizon and closer to being full. It would be noticed going out to the fields in the morning and coming home at night. In scripture (Shmuel Alef/1 Samuel 20:18), David and Jonathan were talking during the daylight hours and David said to Jonathan, Tomorrow is the new ( full ) moon.

Tehillim/Psalm 81:3 addresses the subject of going wrong as to the New Moon directly. The KJV is the only translation that renders this verse as: 'Blow up the trumpet in the New Moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.'

Tehillim/Psalm 80:4 (1384 Wycliffe - Middle English)
04] Blowe ye with a trumpe in Neomenye; in the noble dai of youre solempnite.
Modern English:
04] Blow ye with a trumpet in New Moon; in the noble day of your soleminity.

The 1917 JPS, NKJV, RSV, NIV, The Scriptures (Institute for Scriptural Research), Sacred Scriptures (Bethel Edition), the Jerusalem Bible, & The Tanakh (modern Jewish translation) all accurately render Tehillim/Psalm 81:3 as: Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, At the Full Moon, on our solemn feast day.

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: erich matthew janzen <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:15 am
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Fwd: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?

Hi, All,

I've heard the belief before about the full moon being the new moon. I do agree with Paul that #3677 is full moon, and that Psalms 81:3 is referring to the new moon. However, I believe that the new moon is the first day of the rebuilding, and is not dependant upon seeing a crescent, but is determined by the point of conjunction. I wrote an article sometime back on it at:

www.ministersnewcovenant.org/Ministers%20of%20the%20New%20Covenant/Is%20The%20New%20Moon%20The%20Full%20Moon.htm

Also to Paul, if you are willing to, I would be more than glad to publicly discuss this issue with you over a one hour radio program I have on Monday evenings. We can take equal amounts of time, etc. Let me know what you think.

Love you friends,

Matthew Janzen

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Fwd: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?

Shalom Dear Br. Matthew,
I am humbled that you esteem me by your invitation to join you on your radio program.
However, as we do not agree on the calendar issue I see little point to discuss/debate what is and isn't the true New Moon on your radio program. As I am convicted of a Solar Calendar, and you of a Lunar Calendar, there is little benefit to be had from striving amongst ourselves over an issue that won't resolve the real difference in our perspectives. What I have been showing is that even the current underdstanding of what a New Moon is, is erroneous when examined from texts; such as Enoch and Jubilees; that have been discarded by those who have struggled for many hundreds of years for control to proclaim their calendar as the scriptural calendar.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: erich matthew janzen <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:11 am
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Fwd: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?

Dear Paul,

Hi again, dear friend. Maybe we could start from the basics then. If there are any articles you have written showing why you believe in a strictly solar calendar send them to me. I can do the same, and then we can have a friendly discussion over radio as to why we believe the ways we do; this way people can hear both sides. This will be discussing the real issue of our different perspectives. What do you think?

Your friend,

Matthew Janzen

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri Apr 1, 2005 9:31 pm

Shalom Paul, you can go to my website at www.lunarsabbath.org and down load the free book with everything in it. Can you give the passage where Enoch says the full moon is the new moon?

In the Dead Sea scrolls, Enoch, it says, “Its light grows by fifteenths and becomes complete, day by day, until day fifteen, on which all its light is complete. In its waning the moon decreases its light. The first day a fourteenth, the second day a thirteenth;”

This is found In the Dead Sea scrolls, Frag. 1 col. 111 (ENOCH 78:6-8) I have never seen where Enoch says what you say, I believe you have been fed some misinformation. Please give me the refrance where Enoch say that a new moon is the full moon.

Also in the BOOK OF ENOCH

R.H. Charles Oxford: The Clarendon Press

LXXVIII. The Sun and Moon: the Waxing and Waning of the Moon it says,

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“on the face of the heaven. And when the moon rises one-fourteenth part appears in the heaven:

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[the light becomes full in her]: on the fourteenth day she accomplishes her light. And fifteen parts of light are transferred to her till the fifteenth day (when) her light is accomplished, according to the sign of the year, and she becomes fifteen parts, and the moon grows by (the addition of) fourteenth

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parts. And in her waning (the moon) decreases on the first day to fourteen parts of her light, on the second to thirteen parts of light, on the third to twelve, on the fourth to eleven, on the fifth to ten, on the sixth to nine, on the seventh to eight, on the eighth to seven, on the ninth to six, on the tenth to five, on the eleventh to four, on the twelfth to three, on the thirteenth to two, on the fourteenth

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to the half of a seventh, and all her remaining light disappears wholly on the fifteenth.

During all the period during which the moon is growing in her light, she is transferring it to herself when opposite to the sun during fourteen days [her light is accomplished in the heaven, …….

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and when she is illumined throughout, her light is accomplished full in the heaven. And on the first

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day she is called the new moon, for on that day the light rises upon her. She becomes full moon exactly on the day when the sun sets in the west, and from the east she rises at night, and the moon shines the whole night through till the sun rises over against her and the moon is seen over against

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the sun. On the side whence the light of the moon comes forth, there again she wanes till all the light vanishes and all the days of the month are at an end, and her circumference is empty, void of light.

Brother Arnold.

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: [TheTrueSabbathsAndNewMoons] Fwd: Re: What Exactly Is The Scriptural New Moon?

Dear Br. Matthew,
My apologies for this delayed reply. I have been terribly sick since last week. Looking at this screen has been very painful on the eyes. I am currently undertaking research (as time and health issues allow) that I believe will demonstrate that the current Saturday of the Roman Calendar is indeed the day on which the scriptural 7th day sabbath falls. This research also ties into the Solar Calendar. It is going to take me much longer to search out, though, because of the condition in my legs. I cannot spend multiple hours on end seated in front of my computer as I have done in the past. I will not neglect to share my conclusions when I have completed this; but at this moment I cannot make any promises on how soon I can accomplish this project. With patience, I am sure you will understand and appreciate my efforts under the circumstances.

Yashana.
Br. paul

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: PWC <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 10:58 pm

Dear Br. Arnold,
There is a dry joke that goes like this: There was a man with a wooden leg named Smith. Someone asked what was the name of his other leg.
The point is that the subject of the statement was the man - not his leg. If you will honestly re-read Enoch 78 from your post below you will see that in verses 9-13 the subject matter is the Full Moon. Where it says that on the first day she is called the new moon it is stating that on the first day of being fully illuminated it is the new moon.
To further demonstrate that you have misunderstood Enoch 78, please carefully contemplate Enoch 77:12-16:

Enoch 77:12-16
12] Uriel likewise showed me another regulation, when light is poured into the moon, how it is poured into it from the sun. 13] All the time that the moon is in progress with its light, it is poured into it in the presence of the sun, until its light is in fourteen days completed in heaven. 14] And when it is wholly extinguished, its light is consumed in heaven; and on the first day it is called the new moon, for on that day light is received into it. 15] It becomes precisely completed on the day that the sun descends into the west, while the moon ascends at night from the east. 16] The moon then shines all the night, until the sun rises before it; when the moon disappears in turn before the sun.

You will notice that the Moon's light is wholly consumed in heaven in 14 days. On the first day of being wholly consumed the Moon is called New. And the linch pin to understanding that we are not being told of the crescent moon is the fact that the New Moon shines all night until the sun rises. You will have to admit that any crescent moon observer will only briefly see the first crescent after sunset and not see the moon again the rest of that night. So it is quite obvious that the New Moon is NOT a crescent moon - but in fact the Fat / Plump / Fully illuminated Moon.

I have demonstrated in the past that people force their own definitions over Yahuah's by showing how morning (ie, night far spent) has come to be used to identify daylight. In the same manner Moon worshippers have forced their definition of a crescent new moon over Yahuah's defintion of a Full/New Moon. The following from Enoch 73 not only demstrates that the crescent is not called the New Moon, but is only called the first phase of the moon, rises together with the sun:

Enoch 73:1-5
01-05] And after this law I saw another law dealing with the smaller luminary, which is named the Moon. And her circumference is like the circumference of the heaven, and her chariot in which she rides is driven by the wind, and light is given to her in (definite) measure. And her rising and setting change every month: and her days are like the days of the sun, and when her light is uniform (i.e. full) it amounts to the seventh part of the light of the sun. And thus she rises. And her first phase in the east comes forth on the thirtieth morning: and on that day she becomes visible, and constitutes for you the first phase of the moon on the thirtieth day together with the sun in the portal where the sun rises.

Regarding your invitation to search your website for where you cite all 72 scriptures documenting where the 7th day Sabbath falls on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th of every month, I would impress upon you that you should post your evidence since you made the claim to having it. I believe it not to be unreasonable to ask this of you. Please Br. Arnold post your 72 scriptures for open examination.

YashaNa.
Br. Paul

[Davide]

Message re-posted from The True Sabbaths And New Moons Group:

From: erich matthew janzen <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed Apr 6, 2005 5:59 am

Dear Paul,

Enoch 77:14 is plain in showing the new moon is not the full moon, anyone reading it can see this clearly.

"And when it is wholly extinguished, its light is consumed in heaven; and on the first day it is called the new moon, for on that day light is received into it." [Enoch 77:14]

Verse 15 then goes on to tell us about the moon becoming completed. Verse 15 is not identifying the new moon of vs. 14, but rather going on to show something that occurs after the new moon, when the moon becomes completed, i.e. full.

"It becomes precisely completed on the day that the sun descends into the west, while the moon ascends at night from the east. The moon then shines all the night, until the sun rises before it; when the moon disappears in turn before the sun." [Enoch 77:15-16]

Verse 17 then has the moon going back to being wholly extinguished.

"Where light comes to the moon, there again it decreases, until all its light is extinguished, and the days of the moon pass away." [Enoch 77:17]

Notice how it speaks of the time of extinguishment that the days of the moon pass away, i.e the end of the month or moon. This is further corroborated by Enoch 78:2-3.

"He showed me every ordinance respecting these, which takes place at all times and in all seasons under every influence, in all years, at the arrival and under the rule of each, during every month and every week. He shewed me also the decrease of the moon, which is effected in the sixth gate; for in that sixth gate is its light consumed. From this is the beginning of the month..."

The beginning of the month is from the light begin consumed. Enoch, just like Psalms 81:3-6 prove that the full moon is not the new moon at all. The new moon is rather the first day of the rebuilding moon after the period of its conjunction with the sun.

Matthew Janzen